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Ann B.
07-26-2002, 10:49 PM
Hi, Everyone!

Every day, every week, every month is so packed with things to learn and do, and the time passes before I know it! It's hard to believe it is already past midsummer. and it's time to start thinking about greenhouse plans again.

Since I am in dire need of a larger greenhouse, I thought I would take the time to share with you some of the information that I have been researching. Indeed, when making the decision to build a greenhouse, you can spend as little as around $100 or invest more and have a substantial structure for many years to come.

Don't get me wrong, I love my little greenhouse. It is now over 15 years old and at the time cost about $800, it has served me very well and withstood several minimal hurricanes, and I thank God for the minimal and numerous tropical storms.

The addition of the cool mist system last year has helped me more than I ever anticipated. It means the plants that I normally would have already removed due to heat are thriving despite the fact that I never added a thermostatic controlled roof vent. And the best part is that I have not had to worry about watering them at all in the last couple of months. The cool mist system and timer are doing better than I could have ever done.

The only problem that I have right now is more space and finding the time to repot what I have in there now as they are root bound, and where in the world am I going to put them until I get the beds prepared?

In the meantime, there is an awful lot of knowledge on the internet, and it is free for the searching, but searching can often be extensive and exhausting. You have to weed through all the advertisements to get to the information that you need.

And realizing that many of you have dialup links, I thought I might give you a little edge and share with you some of the ones from which I am learning and will continue to do so until I can begin construction of my own.

The basic, least expensive approach will cost you approximately $100 and depending on your needs and the amount of money you have to spend, it is not a bad way to go. It will certainly suffice until you can afford more.

The only concern is the one that I have to face, and that is the possiblilty of a hurricane or damaging tropical storm which could destroy those little gems inside. Don't get me wrong, I am not as worried about losing a $100 structure as I am about losing those precious cuttings or seedlings. But then again, I must say that I am overly attached to my little babies and any protection at all that I can give them in the winter is better than none at all, so I may have to go this approach.

Backyard Greenhouse (http://www.i4at.org/surv/green.htm) for about $100
by
North Carolina Cooperative Extension Service
Department of Biological and Agricultural Engineering
College of Agriculture and Life Science


Keep in mind there are many styles of greenhouses and coldframes. Below is a link that will help you understand more about the choices available to you along with the pros and cons.

Hobby Greenhouse Construction (http://www.aces.edu/department/extcomm/publications/anr/anr-1105/anr-1105.htm)
by
Alabama Cooperative Extension Service

Another interesting inexpensive greenhouse plan that I found is...

Greenhouse Plan (http://www.wbrz.com/garden/greenhouse.shtml)
by
WBRZ.7com abc NEWS 2 Lousiana

Now, the following illustration is close to my heart. It is what I have wanted to do since I bought my home 20 years ago, but somehow my dream never materialized. It is what I have always thought of as my own small conservatory. I can still dream and perhaps one day, it will come true for I certainly have a perfect place for contructing one of these, and this one gives tips for solar heating which Log Cabin Pat has told us so much about.

Solar Heated Greenhouse and Information (http://www.icenter.net/~ggowler/FreeSolar.html)
by
The Sun Country Greenhouse Company


More pictures, ideas and information that may influence your choices:

Greenhouse Pictures with Information that Might Influence Your Decisions (http://hflp.sdstate.edu/ho412/lectures/LEC-3-01_files/v3_document.htm)
by
South Dekota State University

and here are some more pictures that may help.

Greenhouse Construction (http://www.wvu.edu/~agexten/hortcult/greenhou/grencons.htm)
by
West Virginia Extension Service

If any of you have found other sites that might influence a decision as to which route to take, please post it here. Links to commercial greenhouse companies are welcome as long as you feel they are helpful to those like me that are in the need to know....

Many Thanks!

John M
07-27-2002, 03:16 AM
Ann,

Here's a link to plans offered by a Maine boat builder for a bow-roofed green house 14' x 32' for $400-$600. Design has withstood 70mph winds and snowloads in Maine. It is also a handsome looking structure.

http://www.by-the-sea.com/stimsonmarine/bowroof.html

JohnM

sunrisegirl
07-27-2002, 08:08 AM
Ann, thank you for making this information available to us. I found many good ideas and it really got me to thinking! One thing does lead to another and having started a very few plants I've already started considering a greenhouse. I'm not real handy, but would love to build it myself. I have "saw fear", but some of these don't even need a saw!

m-yerina
07-29-2002, 05:11 AM
Ann, I have read your post with great interest. I too have a small greenhouse that is nearing completion. I agree with the part about doing your research. I have read several articles and books on the subject concluding that first and foremost is location, location, location! I found a site while surfing the web one day, and while not essential I found it most informative and a heck of a lot of fun. Go to http://www.susdesign.com/sunangle/ all you have to do is fill in the required info and the site will calculate the sun angle for whatever time of the day you choose. That info can, in turn be used to determine the shadow length of objects at your location so you can choose your best site. As I said, It is not an essential tool, but the excersise was fun. It also helped me set up my greenhouse for full winter sun and using my lone maple tree to provide shade in the summer. Some books I would recommend are " The Solar Greenhouse book" edited by James C. McCullagh, This one is fairly old but it covers everything from cold frames to free-standing . The next book is titled " Secrets to a Successful Greenhouse and Business" by T.M. Taylor. Another title which inspired my final design is " Ortho's All about Greenhouses" . This book has several inexpensive designs in it and there is something for everyone. It took me a long time to research and choose my final design but it was well worth the effort. I hope this info can be of some help to others out there who are contemplating a backyard greenhouse

Mike

Ann B.
07-29-2002, 11:11 AM
Mike,

That is so much fun!

I went to the site, saw that I needed the longitude and latitude and couldn't help but SMILE...

How many people do you know have an old and yellowed sheet of paper taped inside one of their kitchen cabinets that says 'You are Here' followed by the exact longitude and latitude? Well, now you know that you know at least one...

Yep, yours truly! I obtained it from a Loran reading years ago and use it when we have a pending hurricane or tropical storm.

Now, I have a new way to figure out how many hours of sun my flower beds are getting during different times of the year AND I can calculate sunrise/sunset information for any given day.

Thanks!

m-yerina
07-29-2002, 07:14 PM
Ann;

Wrong! There are at least two. My Longitude and Latitude is on a printout that sits on my desk. Folks think I need to get out more, Since I can tell my exact location to the ten thousandth degree. slight overkill but fun anyway. When I went to the sight I didn't know my long. or lat. OR the GMT! They have directions to figure all that stuff, It was pretty cool! Bottom line, I have my greenhouse in a great location that will work very well for my commitment to solar heat. Starting this fall I am going to keep a journal of daily temps and conditions, My goal is to be able to start tree seedlings in there but that may change as i am pretty close to securing my first clients for my landscape business. One more thing, not related to the greenhouse post but important just the same. My master Gardner classes start this New Year, Been waiting a long time for that. I am looking forward to learning and fellowship
Thanks
Mike

Ann B.
10-08-2002, 09:21 PM
Just in case some of you missed it, there is a place in the following link:

Hobby Greenhouse Construction (http://www.aces.edu/department/extcomm/publications/anr/anr-1105/anr-1105.htm)
by
Alabama Cooperative Extension Service

that says "click here". It leads you to the following page which has drawing and detailed material lists for several greenhouse structures.

Greenhouse Drawings and Material Lists (http://www.aces.edu/department/extcomm/publications/anr/anr-1105/anr-1105plans.html)

With this information, you can figure out your options and how much it will costs to build one yourselves...

Have FUN!

Ann B.
10-12-2002, 07:41 PM
Here is another link that was passed on to me...


Planning and Building Greenhouses (http://www.envirocept.com/gh_guide/)

goldeneagle
10-12-2002, 11:40 PM
Just wanted to say THANK YOU for all the great sites concerning greenhouses and cold frames -

Very informative !!

Ann B.
05-26-2003, 11:11 PM
Here's a link that Shepp shared....

How to Build a PVC Hoophouse (http://www.rainyside.com/resources/hoophouse.html)

It's a small one, for the hobbyist...

Ann B.
06-06-2003, 09:55 AM
Brenda sent me this link....


Backyard Greenhouse (http://www.i4at.org/surv/green.htm)

Thanks, Brenda!

jimtx
06-21-2003, 09:49 PM
This set of plans is good on "door hinges" and vents ... I am still in the learning process but this one looks good to me... but open to suggestions.

http://www.pvcplans.com/pvc-greenhouse.htm

jim

Ann B.
06-21-2003, 10:34 PM
Jim,

Just wanted to let you know that I am here, and I am listening. I see you going through the same process that I have many times before. There are so many options.

And I am learning more as everyone chimes in to tell about their experiences...

Remember this?

Construction of My Little Greenhouse (http://www.landspro.com/page2530.htm)

Well... That little greenhouse costs a lot more than $100 to build, but I must say, the wood has held up, the corrugated fiberglass is no longer white do the aging and nearby pecan trees...

But, I must have done something right because it has withstood some mighty strong hurricane winds and severe flooding, yet somehow still does what I need it to do.

Gee, how I wish I could afford a much larger one, though! You know as well as I do that it doesn't take long to fill them up...

Take your time, Jim! Learn! Share experiences with others and do what feels right to YOU!

John_NY
06-27-2003, 08:54 AM
Here are some hints on bending your own tubing, and building a mist timer, both of which can save you a few bucks.

http://www.johngrows.com/tipsandtricks.html

Ann B.
11-28-2003, 08:09 AM
Bumping for John...

sweetpea1145
04-24-2004, 10:57 AM
Hi All. Just a comment on one of the greenhouse plans in your post. I finished building a 12' x' 24' greenhouse using the first set of plans in your post. Total cost about $100. I had much of the wood for framing on hand, though. If I had to buy wood for framing, I figure about another $75. So far, it's working like a champ, except that my door isn't plumb, but it opens and closes as it should.

Ann B.
04-24-2004, 11:28 AM
Thanks, Diane!

The price of wood has really gone up this year. It probably has something to do with the price for gasoline which has sky rocketed here...

What kind of plastic did you use? I used the cheap stuff (not uv rated greenhouse plastic) on my temporary leanto and the plastic started splitting at the folds after 4 months. I will not be using it again next year.

Many of the nurseries here make sort of a flap door out of the plastic, roll it up and fasten it when they need access and on warmer days. They are not using PVC, though and do not need the sturdiness provided by the wood on the ends of the greenhouses.

Thanks, again!

sweetpea1145
04-25-2004, 11:21 PM
Well, the price of gas has hit $2.11 for reg here in Oakridge. As far as the plastic goes, I used a 4-mil painters drop cloth. I got a 24' x 100' roll for about 25$ and still half of it left (stored away from sunlite). I used 6-mil on the last greenhouse that a heavy snow storm flattened and I hadn't had any problems with that plastic either. I'll let you know if I have problems with this 4-mil. I checked with AM Leonard about some plastic, but was told that it wasn't recommended for pvc greenhouses and it was a lot more money. I got used metal screening for the top half of the door and the same area in the other end for ventilation. Sure wish that I could roll up one or both sides. It's warmish in there on a sunny day.:)

Ann B.
04-26-2004, 05:17 PM
$2.11!!!!!

It is running about $1.75 here. I'll have to stop buying lunch in the school cafeteria if it goes above $2.00! LAS!!!

I am not sure why this plastic performed so poorly. It does state "Not for Greenhouse Use" on the outside of the package. The plastic didn't get very much sun during the winter. It is on the North side of the house, so the late afternoon sun is blocked by the high roof line.

One thing for sure.... I will not take the chance next year. I will buy a roll of greenhouse plastic from BWI and have it delivered. There are many other supplies that I need on a regular basis, and they deliver for free if the order is large enough.

When I build a bigger greenhouse, it is highly unlikely that I will use PVC. The cheaper PVC simply does not do well during our summers. I built these little sprinkler bases using PVC (not UV rated) and they split and went to pieces after one summer in the sun.

Also, tropical storms and hurricanes are a huge factor. By the time you brace a PVC structure here good enough to withstand those typical high winds in the summer and fall, you might as well have purchased something stronger.

I'm not sure what I am going to do yet. I am just pleased that my plants made it using this temporary lean-to this past winter.

;)

sweetpea1145
04-26-2004, 10:55 PM
Hi, I used schedule 3/4 " 80 pvc on current greenhouse with a 1/2" electric conduit inside ridge pole. The plan that I used recommended it. Took me a while to find it but I finally did find it for about 20 cents a foot in 20' lengths. I had to cut it to 10' to get it on my minivan to take home which was not a problem since I had to cut it to 10' lengths for the greenhouse anyway. I have used some sch 200 pvc and found that it got brittle very easily. Schedule 40 is much more durable and not much more expensive, maybe 30-50 cents per 10' length. I do agree with you that in your climate, a metal frame would be a good idea. Oregon rarely gets tornados and our winter storms, while they are pretty bad sometimes, don't compare with a hurricane of any magnitude. AM Leonard has a greenhouse brochure that is free and covers metal frames, coverings and fastenings. I know that you hear Mike McGroarty talk about them all the time. Well, I've gotta go. Take care and keep planting.