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ty_1
01-26-2008, 12:10 PM
Really: there is not yet a thread on this dangerous cat.
Attention: it's coming!

'Striped Panther'
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa207/ty_003/IMG_2178asx.jpg

Greetings from the big game hunter
ty

Ann B.
01-26-2008, 12:58 PM
Oh, Thank YOU! Thank YOU! THANK YOU, Ty!

This is one of the ones on my gotta have list, and now that I see how many buds are on each of your scapes, it just jumped to the very TOP of the list!

Aren't they pretty, delicate, and gracious buds?!?!?

Love it!

Thanks, again! I can't wait to see the pictures of them in bloom.

ty_1
01-26-2008, 02:04 PM
It advances, it advances ...

'Striped Panther'
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa207/ty_003/IMG_2181asx.jpg

terrified and trembling ...

or not?
ty

Ann B.
01-26-2008, 02:11 PM
Wow!

It takes my breath away...

Now, you absolutely must keep posting pics of the progress of this one.

Indeed, a wild cat, on the prowl, about to open those jaws and those piercing claws and pounce upon the unsuspecting victim...

Yeeeowww!

ty_1
01-26-2008, 03:15 PM
Ta Tiii Ta Taaaaaa

stay's arriving
with all trumpets...

'Striped Panther'
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa207/ty_003/IMG_2186a2sx.jpg

ty

Ann B.
01-26-2008, 03:23 PM
Ooooooooohhhhh...

I would love to be able to grab into this monitor and gather some of that pollen for my Misty's that are currently in bloom.

Can you imagine what that cross would do?

OMG! Gotta get that one next year...

Misty from last year is doing good, but I didn't force it, so it is still growing happily, full of leaves in the greenhouse.

I did notice that the two that I have in my bedroom are not nearly as colorful as the one in the patio last year, and that surprises me because it was on an upper shelf where it was getting very little direct daylight and no artificial light.

I'm beginning to think that there is more than just light requirements that makes the differences in color. The Misty's in my bedroom are warm and near many lights, even though maybe not as much as needed (they reach to light). Yet, this years are so much paler.

I have fallen in love with the trumpets, and I blame Hans-Werner for that. I didn't know that I would adore them this much until I saw Misty.

Gotta have Striped Panther!

Purrrrrrrrrrrrrring...

ty_1
01-26-2008, 03:41 PM
All trumpets, I said!

'Striped Panther'
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa207/ty_003/IMG_2258ax.jpg

yours
ty

Ann B.
01-26-2008, 04:12 PM
Definitely, Striped Panther just escalated to the TOP of my Wish List!

Oh...

That definitely does take your breath away!

ty_1
01-26-2008, 04:42 PM
Now look the beast in the eye -
or a closer look on a blossom-trumpet from the front:

'Striped Panther'
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa207/ty_003/IMG_2210b2x.jpg

ty

Ann B.
01-26-2008, 05:30 PM
Ah!

Definitely on the wild side!!!!

ty_1
01-26-2008, 06:25 PM
Wild, wild, but:

Where is the botton on this forum for transmitting fragrance?
Ts, ts, that should grow better. On work, Ann!

Till this forum is fit out and armed with the necessary, a picture must be enough. If you concentrate completely, and you must forget especially all bad odors and stench - your nose must become totally empty - now you concentrate the picture, the wonderful composition of colors, especially the bright ones (yellow and bright green): did you note: that fine exotic smell of fruits and flowers - it grows - marvelous, fantastic - you smell it.

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa207/ty_003/IMG_2182a1sx.jpg
'Striped Panther'

Sincerely
ty


who needs to go to bed at half past two a clock in the morning for not generating more crazy ideas this night

Ann B.
01-26-2008, 06:31 PM
Smiling...

Good Night, Ty and thank you for the wonderful evening and for sharing this fantastic beauty with us!

I'll pretend that the scent is working through my computer, okay?

sue salley
01-26-2008, 07:09 PM
Ty, I have never seen one so different. I love it and so many blooms. Thanks for tracking it's progress with your camera and sharing with us. Beautiful.

ty_1
01-27-2008, 05:38 AM
At this moment I must confess something: all those pictures are "snow from yesterday", as we say here, if something is no more actual, actual.

The photos so far are taken a year ago. The big bulb formed a lot of beautyful leaves, in fall it lost them completely and I put it in the cellar. At noel I brought it in the warm rooms - and soon it developed a scape and 7 fresh leaves at the same time. The scape has grown in height: last year the plant was about 2 ft., now it's more than 3 ft..

'Striped Panther'
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa207/ty_003/IMG_0844asx.jpg

ty

Ann B.
01-27-2008, 12:30 PM
Awesome, and I am elated that you shared last years pictures. In fact, I hope you will share more.

I gather that Striped Panther is a diploid, and I absolutely must have one so that I can use it in my newest (last two years) amaryllis adventures.

Ty, I have had Amaryllis for about 15 years, I suppose. I have fallen more and more in love with them. Every year, there are more that I like and want. I have very few that have a scent, and the scent is very light.

Please do post pictures of this year's blooms. I see 6 blooms on a scape. Is that correct?

ty_1
01-27-2008, 01:47 PM
Of course you are right - 6 blooms on a scape.
You see quite another plant from same bulb as last year!

'Striped Panther'
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa207/ty_003/IMG_0846asx.jpg

yours
ty

Ann B.
01-27-2008, 05:03 PM
Ty,

It is absolutely beautiful, so delicate, yet bold & striking & demanding your attention.

I don't know what exactly it is about this one, but it is calling my name or should I say screeching my name?

Do you think that it might be because I see so much breeding potential in it? I would love to try some of its pollen on Johnsonii.

Both have 6 blooms or more, and both have that vivid white stripe, and yet it has some of that cybister look or something.

I absolutely MUST try that cross, both ways! So, next year, I will have to plan carefully to force a Johnsonii to bloom when MY new arrival gets here.

Oh, but first I have to find one and order it, don't I?

Oh! I am so very excited about this one. I MUST have it!!!

Dreaming...

ty_1
01-27-2008, 06:13 PM
It's breeding potential is really interesting - so I am not yet absolutely shure, if it is really diploid, as it looks like. Why?

I got no seedpots - all scapes dried and so aborted the seeds.

Look: I got seeds from pollinating cybister-hybrids ('Emerald' and 'Sumatra'), will say diploids.

But: I got seeds too from pollinating tetraploids! ('Charisma', 'Faro', 'Hercules' and 'Ludwig Dazzler')

So theoretically it should be TET!

And tetraploid, fragrant trompets, that would open a really large field of interesting crossbreedings. Even if it functions only as pollendonator.

Perhaps our friend and expert Hans-Werner can tell us more, if our wildcat will became dangerous for theories of ploidy or - on the other hand - for conventional breeders .

For pleasure another actual picture - depending from age of the blooms, infalling light and background-colour the blossom seems more cream-coloured or white, I will show more impressionant examples later on:

'Striped Panther'
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa207/ty_003/IMG_0870a1x.jpg

Sincerely
ty

Ann B.
01-27-2008, 06:42 PM
Oh, now this is where my head starts swirling, spinning...

I have Charisma blooming now or at least it should be all the way open tomorrow. Faro is opening, but will not completed open for another two days, I think.

I have only pollinated Charisma with TET pollen, and I had harvested 100's of seeds. At the time, I had very few dips in bloom, and it never even occured for me to try them.

Hans-Werner has told me that Diploid pollen on Tet is most likely impossible, but Tet pollen on diploid has some limited success. I suppose that means that your success indicates that it is Tet.

Sumatra has given me no seed pods with diploid pollen, so I wonder...

Emerald X Papilio and Papilio X Emerald produced lots of seeds and the seedlings are progressing quite well.

I hesitate to ask this, but are you absolutely sure that Charisma, Faro, Hercules and Ludwig Dazzler were not accidentally self or cross pollenated with other Tets?

I had this frustration with Johnsonii, for years. Since it was in my garden, the bees would pollinate from my others, and my others were all Tets. I had no other diploids, and there were no seeds until Hans-Werner convinced me to self pollinate them, and WOW! I have lots of Johnsonii X Johnsonii seedlings. That same year, I purchased my first Amputo and I crossed it with Johnsonii (both ways) with even greater success.

I still have the problem with accidental pollination with Tets, so some Johnsonii seeds are duds.

This whole thing about ploidy is quite complex, isn't it?

One thing for sure, if Striped Panther is Tet, I can think of endless possibilites.

Thoughts from my heart and soul...

Ann B.
01-27-2008, 06:54 PM
I sure hope that I did not get all of that backwards. Hans-Werner knows how often I have had to ask that question...

There are times that I feel somewhat dense!

ty_1
02-03-2008, 06:26 PM
I promised other pictures. But I had a very dense week in my job.

No, Ann, I don't think, it was only accidental pollination. There were 5 seed-pots with tetraploids (2 of 3 tries with 'Ludwig Dazzler', 1 of 2 tries with 'Faro', 1 of 1 try with 'Charisma' and 'Hercules', but 12 with other TET's failed). That cannot all be an accident, 1 yes, 2 probably, 3 perhaps, but 5 pods: no.

I am disappointed a little of the absent statement of our friend and chief-expert from my neighbouring country, Hans-Werner from Germany.

When you look at my next foto, please pay attention to the black background.

'Striped Panther'
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa207/ty_003/IMG_0886a1sx1.jpg

Kind regards
ty

MichiganDave
02-03-2008, 07:44 PM
Ty, I think it looks very nice. I like the "pattern" (I am new so I don't know the right terminologies yet).

Btw, I have gone to Swiss many time in the past 2-3 years for work. I went to Aarau. Switzerland is a beautiful country!

Ann B.
02-04-2008, 08:25 AM
Unfortunately, I do not think that my new Charisma is Charisma after all. It looks more like Temptation. I will not complain since it was an inexpensive bulb and beautiful blooms.

If it wasn't for the fact that I have crossed Charisma with many known tets, I could/would question its ploidy.

Faro is definitely a tet, and I am trying to decide how best to pollinate that one. Surely, it must be done today because Candy Floss, the may not be Charisma, Baby Star, Orange Sovereign and Mambo (poor thing was not a good bulb and needed surgery) are all in bloom. Misty is stll in bloom.

The question as to whether your wild cat is a TET... The only way that I can remember which way is which is to recall Hans=Werner's trials with Papilio as a pod parent using Tet pollen.

If you succeeded in using Diploid pollen on a Tet (your wildcat?), then this is something that Hans-Werner tells me that he has not been able to do. That does not mean that it is impossible. He carefully states that he has not had success with that.

I know that some of my miniatures that I thought truly must be Diploid are indeed Tets.

Sometimes, I wonder if some have mixed chromosome counts. Wouldn't that be awesome if that could happen?

Now, while we are awaiting reply from Hans-Werner, can you give us a tip on the black background?

ty_1
02-06-2008, 12:12 PM
Painted with the camera ...

Same picture, a little less exposed (0,5 instead of 0,8 sec) because of the brighter background.


'Striped Panther'
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa207/ty_003/IMG_0882x1.jpg

Sincerely
ty

Ann B.
02-06-2008, 02:44 PM
Very NICE! And so very soft...

So, how do you do that?